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06 May, 2011 12:12 PM
WHILE the club and pub industry bleats that proposed pokie laws are somehow “un-Australian” without defining the term, there’s no doubt they’d be “un-Goulburn.”

Imagine the place if there were no clubs – not beyond the realms of possibility if legislation to make pokie players sign up to a mandatory pre-commitment card emerges from Federal parliament.

A chilling spectre that owes nothing to Goulburn winters, but everything to the city’s four clubs drastically curtailing their operations, or, worst case medium-term, pulling the plug entirely because they couldn’t pay their way.

Then Goulburn wouldn’t be the same any more, having been “unned” by Canberra by default.

Hopefully, such a debacle never comes to pass, but for smaller one-club communities it’s a real possibility. Thus, it’s instructive to ignore the overworked and underwhelming “un- Australian” spiel being pumped out by club-pub-pokie industry PR and advertising flacks, and sit down with Goulburn’s biggest two club bosses for a more realistic take on the issue.

Unsurprisingly, both are scathing of Tasmanian independent MP Andrew Wilkie’s unveiled threat to bring down the Gillard government if his draconian pokie legislation is not adopted.

Toni Mitchell, general manager of the Soldiers Club and Clubs NSW regional councillor, and Brett Gorham, the new Workers Club CEO, accept that a relatively few people are certainly qualified to be branded Problem Gamblers.

“But if there were no pokies, they’d still have a gambling problem,” Mr Gorham said.

“Online gaming is a very insidious form of gambling from home at any hour of the day. And what’s to stop them punting with the TAB or bookies?

“There simply hasn’t been a proper large-scale study of poker machine gambling problems, except for a small and discredited Norwegian attempt that’s being used here in Australia. “It seems to me the aim here is to get rid of pokies entirely, which would have disastrous consequences - far greater than the incidence of problem gambling.”

“The club (and pub) industry does have in place a lot of services to help these people. They can tell trained club staff they are battling a problem and need help, but it isn’t a mandatory thing: people can’t go around with a sign on their back saying “I’ve got a gambling problem.”

Ms Michell said the Soldiers Club has had eight people take up the option of self-exclusion from playing pokies.

“We’d be very happy to have gambling counsellors set up on the premises with private rooms where people who feel they need help can get it,” she said.

“It isn’t just the gambler who needs or asks for help – it’s also his or her family. They occasionally come to us and say, ‘Dad (or Mum) needs help for a gambling habit that’s getting worse.’ Our staff are trained to help, but the person with the problem has to be willing to accept it.”

So-branded Problem Gamblers aside, the real scary problem for Goulburn and other places where clubs play a major role in worthwhile community affairs, is the prospect of club revenues and largesse collapsing.

For the full story, a related comment, the related editorial and statistics on Goulburn’s four clubs, please see the print edition of Friday’s Goulburn Post.

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I will bet you that unresearched, non implementable regulations and processes affecting the responsible punter will be imposed while the problematic punter will continue to gamble via whatever means is available! 10 to 100!!!
Posted by Sarcaustic Boo, 6/05/2011 7:38:48 PM, on Goulburn Post
"But if there were no pokies, they’d still have a gambling problem,” Mr Gorham said. That is not true. I started to gamble at age 45. I lost a lot of money that had taken years to save. It took years to stop gambling, but when I did I did not resort to other forms of gambling. I am now free of it and very grateful to be free of it. It should be banned. It does not do Australia any good at all.
Posted by itsmeagaaain, 6/05/2011 10:41:25 PM, on Goulburn Post
Enough of this un-Australian label, I still havent figured out what this means. Im really amazed by the clubs "holier than though" stance. Once upon a time clubs were a local social venue,those times have gone, now they are gaudy neon monoliths to extravagance.

They provide no essential community service that can not be replicated or provided elsewhere. The whole basis of clubs nowadays is purely as a means of parting people from thier disposable income in a slick as fashion as possible. I cant see that the town would suffer at all by the loss of the clubs as other venues would rise to the occasion and fill the void.

There has always been mug punters, whether they waste money on horses, dogs, football or poker machines , legislation wont solve this problem. But for clubs to assume the high moral ground is the height of hypocrisy, when their sole reason for existence is the accumulation of wealth through gambling. One has to only observe the edifices they house themselves in to be aware of this.

Posted by Mr Smith, 6/05/2011 10:41:26 PM, on Goulburn Post
Who cares about pokies think of all the revenue Canberra takes out of the community with their tax on them and registration fees.
Posted by EMPORER GREG, 7/05/2011 8:45:42 PM, on Goulburn Post
Will the controls to manage problem gambling include casinos, online gambling and all other gambling options? To aim at one form of gambling is a courageous action, pandering to one politician to keep the greens labor coalition in power.
Posted by old goat, 8/05/2011 10:23:23 AM, on Goulburn Post
'Australian' should not mean gamblers, alcoholics, drug addicts, tattoos. It is time to get civilized.

Gambling addiction is a growing social problem in our communities. Youths are starting to gamble at the age of 18; robbing, breaking into houses, shops to finance their addiction. Australia is a country where liquor and gambling industry has strong lobbyists in the government, as they have turned the country to their own play ground.

Beside the recent restrictions, gambling and alcohol age limit should be raised to 21 to curb addictions. Gaming should be allowed in designated cities; Australia is a country where there is a gaming club and a bottle shop at every corner, even in small towns. Crime and violence are on the rise, fueled by gambling, alcohol and illegal drugs. We welcome every restriction that would make our communities safer.

Posted by FG, 8/05/2011 7:41:31 PM, on Goulburn Post
This story seems to be more comment than reporting. the views are abviously those of the writer LEIGH BOTTRELL than an objective presentation of the facts. Liegh seems to be in total support of poker machines and the club industry.

Surely we as readers of the Goulburn Post can make up our own minds if this ban on poker machines is a good or bad thing by reading and analysing all of the facts, from both sides, for ourselves.

A bit less editorialising by journalists and more reporting please.

Posted by Bruno, 10/05/2011 4:39:53 PM, on Goulburn Post

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